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#1 2024-05-01 09:09:22

Void
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Gravity Simulations on Mars and Phobos and Deimos

https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 38#p222538
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This showed up today: https://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.ph … 37#p222537
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Well, I think that this is very good: https://phys.org/news/2024-05-horizonta … sical.html

MAY 1, 2024 REPORT

Editors' notes
Horizontal running could help lunar astronauts retain physical conditioning
by Bob Yirka , Phys.org

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The research team noted that the forces exerted by the volunteers against the walls of the cylinder were similar to those of a runner under normal conditions on Earth—more than enough to keep their muscles and bones from atrophying if they ran in the cylinder every day on the moon.

This may also indicate that an orbital slow spin habitat may permit this method to conserve heath.

And of course this should work on Mars.

Done

So, that may work for adults capable of running, which is worth quite a lot.

I would venture that if you had a spin gravity cylinder inside of a static cylinder, the speed or rotation could be low enough to allow pressurization.  And with a small, simulated gravity,

You could have a main pressure vessel that does not spin, and a spinner in it.  It may be possible to have a canister in the main pressure vessel that can give microgravity, as to be shielded from the vibrations of the rest of the structure.

So, in space manufacturing in LEO, this would perhaps allow prolonged human presence in a very large set of structures.  This would strogly reduce the need for reconditioning in a full scale 1 g circumstance.

Last edited by Void (Today 10:07:25)

Done.

So, the question of maintaining healthy human adult fitness may be addressed.

The question of dealing with children and those who cannot run, is still open.  But for Mars/Phobos/Deimos, the options are widened.  Someday it may be possible to interfere with the bodies signals to maintain health, but for children this will be complex, I am sure.

If Children cannot grow properly on the surface of Mars, then artificial gravity could be used, in orbit or perhaps even on Mars.  In orbit would probably allow much larger situations for children and the disabled.

Done

Last edited by Void (2024-05-01 09:17:38)


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#2 2024-05-01 10:55:44

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Re: Gravity Simulations on Mars and Phobos and Deimos

This post is reserved for an index to posts that may be contributed by NewMars members over time.

Gravity is a popular topic in NewMars...

Here is a snapshot of available topics as of 2024/05/01.... this new topic by Void joins a number of other interesting attempts to cover an important issue.

I note that Void has provided several of these alternative discussions, along with SpaceNut and Mars_B4_Moon.

AISE objected to something in the original quote

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Artificial Gravity by Antius [ 1 2 ]
    Human missions     39     2024-04-19 15:41:15 by Mars_B4_Moon
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Martian gravity is good for you by jakeypoos
    Civilization and Culture     13     2024-04-01 12:38:15 by Mars_B4_Moon
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Gravity Tractor and Magnetic Enhanced Gravity Tractor by tahanson43206
    Science, Technology, and Astronomy     21     2024-03-09 15:48:35 by tahanson43206
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Gravity Remediation in LEO for Space Travelers by tahanson43206
    Interplanetary transportation     14     2023-12-07 12:26:34 by GW Johnson
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Is Half Gravity 0.5 G Centrifugal enough to stay Healthy to Mars? by Mars_B4_Moon [ 1 2 ]
    Human missions     46     2023-09-30 12:14:30 by GW Johnson
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Artificial gravity station? by Terraformer
    Human missions     6     2023-09-26 07:54:40 by Mars_B4_Moon
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Adding Spin Gravity on Small Worlds. by Void
    Terraformation     4     2023-08-12 13:26:33 by Void
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Sticky: Gravity Energy Storage by tahanson43206 [ 1 2 3 … 6 ]
    Science, Technology, and Astronomy     146     2023-07-01 12:27:19 by SpaceNut
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1 gee artificial Gravity on Moon and Mars surface by Quaoar
    Human missions     5     2022-09-14 22:02:03 by SpaceNut
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Artificial 1g Gravity on Mars vs in Space by martienne [ 1 2 3 ]
    Science, Technology, and Astronomy     69     2022-07-01 20:08:03 by Mars_B4_Moon
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Gravity Confinement Fusion by tahanson43206
    Science, Technology, and Astronomy     7     2022-03-30 12:49:49 by tahanson43206
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Artificial Gravity and SpaceX by Oldfart1939
    Human missions     3     2021-11-30 16:42:10 by GW Johnson
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Artificail Gravity Cable Tether experiments by SpaceNut
    Human missions     8     2021-07-18 10:42:56 by GW Johnson
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Solar Orbiter getting first Venus gravity assist by SpaceNut
    Unmanned probes     2     2020-12-28 19:20:36 by SpaceNut
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Artificial Gravity using 3 Starships by louis
    Human missions     9     2019-12-16 21:13:29 by SpaceNut
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Modified gym equipment to partially simulate low gravity. by Void
    Science, Technology, and Astronomy     10     2018-04-29 11:54:38 by Void
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Pressurized Rover + Crater = 1 Earth gravity by Tom Kalbfus
    Life support systems     5     2017-01-21 17:15:55 by GW Johnson
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New theory of gravity fits astronomical observations by Antius
    Science, Technology, and Astronomy     1     2016-12-20 23:56:50 by Void
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Effect of low gravity on plant life? by undormant
    Terraformation     7     2014-08-26 06:36:58 by undormant
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Synthetic Gravity on the Moon to simulate gravity on Mars. by Void
    Life support systems     6     2013-10-02 16:08:45 by Void

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