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#1 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » For all accomplished scientists » 2008-04-13 15:39:10

Get poor grades and go to a party school where you will shine as the best student compared to the assorted pot smoking loosers that got accepted with you. I went that route and got into grad school, now lots of people think I am some sort of smart guy.

#2 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2008-04-13 15:29:37

I got a another job, this time I count seeds all day. One bad thing is that I am so busy being a masters student and working I don't have time to post things about mars though no one took my idea to send all the liberals to the sun was good, but like the idea of sending them to the moon so I could rule Mars with a iron fist. There is no ACLU on mars my first task is to enslave the wimpy scientist to make me a doomdays machine to blow earth up or give me 1 million dollars. Then construct a gaint statue of me on Mars. My rule of insanity will be last for 1000 years! I call my self Ming the Bloodlust 1st emperor of Mars!

I am just joking but you guys need to get out into the sun and stop bloging in your mothers basment.

#3 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2007-10-16 13:51:10

I like my job, the ladies are nice even the one that said to me " All you Men are all the same!" I was just asking her why she wanted to study plants. She now will say hello to me in the morning, I think she has man problems single mother.  I don't try to pick them up but maybe I should, the two with wedding bands just seem to love me. It would be fun to be the other man, and break up a happy home. I like country music so it only natural for me to cause trouble.
Now that I have more free time I and final start dating nice ladies, the last 4 years have been borning and lonely. That explains why I like Mars, scifi channel, and video games I am a natural born nerd. The last lady I work with kept asking me to look her in to her eyes "hazel", if I had a grilfriend. The women I work with now told me that I would make a great father and how hansome I am. I guess they are looking for mates, but I am happy beening single for now. I just understand why I get hit on so much by older women at bars they buy me drinks and asking if I now what a couger is? The 8 years of my life since I was 16 they would not give me the time of day. But now that I lost 50 bls and earn my degree they  like me alot. I still feel like the same shy person. That is what I been thinking about, which explains my lack of interest in terraforming or Mars.

#4 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2007-08-27 18:47:01

Hello, I am doing well. I got a job now working as a mounter of plants and file plants all day. Best of all I get to work around pretty 20 yr females, too bad that they are all married. Who would of thought that botany was a turn on for some women. I speak latin names all day and they lave every minute of it. But at 8.50 an hour I don't have the money to take them out, plus their husbands might not like it. 
All together I have fun, but as a good boy I can't be a player. I also have been growing beans in my garden.
I look at the full moon last night it was pretty, I think one day man will land on the moon for real. The second time is just as good as the first time ask anyone on the street.

#5 Re: Not So Free Chat » Hypothetical - Secession of Conservative States » 2007-04-24 17:39:48

Just like the liberal states run them selfs. They hate America and they can go away and make there own country.

#6 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2007-04-24 17:33:27

It rained at my house on monday, I also have earned my BS degree in plant biology in december 2006, but can't get a job yet. I have not posted at newmars for a long time but I been working hard on a research project. Other than that I still like Mars.

#7 Re: Not So Free Chat » Hey I'm here! » 2007-04-24 17:25:33

Hello, they just let me join because I am so great!.

#8 Re: Terraformation » Terraforming the Moon - Your opinion, please » 2006-10-10 15:59:53

Hello Ittiz,

The moon and other small objects are hard worlds to terrafrom due to their low gravity or high temps.
Titan a large moon has a thick atmosphere due it being very cold. The Moon could have a thick atmosphere if its exosphere was kept cold, the lower troposhere could be warm. Air is a poor conductor of heat, the key is to keep the heat trap near the surface and prevent warming of the outer atmosphere br long wave IR. On earth the outer atmosphere is cold because the greenhouse gases trap the L ir and prevent it from warming it.
The easy way is to build a world house, the entire would is domed with a protective membrane. The worldhouse idea provides a way to keep the gases from escaping the world and you dont need heavey gases niether. The scifi website Orions arm has some good articals on it, but nobody has realey study this concept. Also they have a lot of other spaced based buildings, terraforming, and stories. But it is Scifi just like the ships in star trek or battlestar galitica so don't read to much into their ideas.

#9 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2006-09-05 15:32:30

We will haave to where naame tags, that way we will alswise know who we are taking too.
Hello Bob, hi Janus, bye Billyray. It is perfect.
Poor Pluto is now called a drawth. They like to be called little people, it is also rude to toss one like pluto with out asking it.

#10 Re: Terraformation » Terraforming the Moon - Your opinion, please » 2006-09-05 15:18:48

Ittiz, Nice picture of the moon. That is by far the best picture of a terrafromed moon that I have seen. I have only seen one other before but it looks good. You should show us more of your spaace art work.
Good idea to use heavy gas, that sloves the escape problem. It would take a long time to manufacter your gas to provide a Atmospere for the moon. The air pressure on your moon should be higher than the earths pressure to provide radiation protection during solar stroms. Keep water on the moon would not be a problem since it would stay in the troposphere like on earth. A thicker atmosphere would also provide good circulation to help keep the moon from frezzing or boiling due to its slow rotation.  In your atmosphere would also need some CO2, N2. Also the weathering of the moon rocks would limit the amount of Oxrgen that could build up.  The process of chemical weathering of the moon rock in to soil would take at least 1000 to 10000 years depending on climate. The kinds of plants that could grow would be lickens.
For example on Mars water was active for some time on the surface, weathered rocks had time to turn int secondary minary slicate clays in some places. But the moon has no soil development other than broken rock. Try growing a been seed in a cup of broken unaltered basalt, That is what the maria is. Sure it has lots of minerals but is lock up in crystal forms unusable to plants. The crystal have to broken down by weathering to release the Cations, and their must by clays their to hold them in place. Others wise they will wash away into the sea. Thats why the earth Oceans are salty leached cations Na, Mg, Ca, K, P.
Your magical nanotech cant solve that problem. Ideas about terrafrom never included all the bio- chem-geo process that have to interact to yeild a living cummunity. Soil is one of the most important places for the interactions of the living world. Rock, water, minerals, lives, chemistry all come togather in soil. You cant have a living earth with out soil niether a terraformed object. Rember Biosphere 2 they remebered everything but the soil. In the end the over nuteirent soil encouraged rapid microb reiperation using all the O2 that the  trees made meant for thge humans.
Soil is the most important part of any living system!

#11 Re: Science, Technology, and Astronomy » The Evolution of Evolution » 2006-06-08 12:32:53

Darwin was crazy and his ideas on evolution are wrong. Everying you need to know is in the bible. May Darwin burn in Hell fires forever.

#12 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potlock I » 2006-06-08 12:28:27

In Irag I here that the big terror leader was killed. Look like things are looking up in Irag!

#14 Re: Terraformation » Thoughts on producing an atmosphere on the Moon » 2006-06-08 12:14:10

Hello Mars dog, it looks very nice there along the ocean. I would need a jacket in that picture. Burr it must be in the 60 F there.
Here a link to north Mountain park, I hike there a lot. http://www.arizonensis.org/sonoran/plac … ntain.html

North Montain is tall
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsro … mg_id=4835
Heres a web cam of the school I go to.
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/arizona/asu/
A site that has weather info for my town
http://www.azcentral.com/weather/

#15 Re: Terraformation » Thoughts on producing an atmosphere on the Moon » 2006-06-07 10:17:46

My spanish teacher was form Bulgaria. Karvo

As fo paraforming it into a garden of Eden, for the most part it has been. With lots and lots of water, trees and miles of golf greens. The urban heat island is a bad side effect of all the pavement. There is a solution, I thought of it years ago. Just plant large shade trees all along the streets so that they are shaded. Central ave in my town is all ready.  As for evacuating people that would not work people love it here. One of the fastest growing areas in the USA. As for greenhouses it is all ready warm, in fact greenhouses here are cooled to keep them from getting too hot. One good thing about greenhouses is that you can conserve water with hydroponics. In open fields tons of water is wasted by evaporation or just runs off. Very little is used by the plants.

As for the heat that is just part of living in a desert, for a person in Bulgaria 112 F may seem hot, but its a dry heat. Your sweat evaporates fast to keep you cool.
As for the moon it also a desert, will you paraform it into a garden? Compared to the moon the dry desert are paradise with water and air. You got a big job ahead of you.

#16 Re: Terraformation » Thoughts on producing an atmosphere on the Moon » 2006-06-06 10:08:37

Yes the brown clouds hang over my city, but the thing that really makes it bad is the urban heat Island effect. The city heats up and keeps the nights warm. In the country outside of Phoenix get gets just as hot but it cools right down at night to 72 F, but here in the big city it stays above 100 F untile midnight. Todays low was 86 F. But it was windy and this morning I saw some clouds in the sky! I don't hold fath that rain will come because it's not that time of year. But it is just nice to have a cloudy day for once.

It does rain in Arizona in the mountains but just not a lot in the desert lowlands. Since January 2 inches of rain. As for the smog it's bad but not as bad as LA, there it mixes with fog to form peroxides that die all the lady's hair blond. But what causes the slicone to get into there bodys remains a great myth.

#17 Re: Terraformation » Thoughts on producing an atmosphere on the Moon » 2006-06-05 09:38:41

Karov, you should really think about visiting the US. My home state of Arizona is filled with many wonders and great people.  As I post it is June and it is 112 F, as you can sea it is a great time to come and visit.

For airless worlds larde domes would work well. I think it been called paraforming, or tenting.  Basicly the wieght of the dome is balanced by the pressure of the air inside. These domes can cover intire worlds with a roof, and can start small and grow with the worlds needs. The moon could be changed this way, but I think that the ice moons of the outer planets would be the best canidates. They have lots of water, and other frozen compounds like NH3, CO2 in abundence. But for living on them thre gravity is low, the best way to use these moons is to taraform the largest ones, roof the small ones and use them to grow food.

#18 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2006-05-31 10:05:45

Up date my apples have grown but are still small. Once the heat of summer comes it is very hard to garden where I live. I have to water every day, and provide shade. To get around this I plant many native plants that do well in heat. Jipson weed "Datura" has large white flowers that open at night and have a pleasent smell. But it is toxic and has drug effects. It makes very ill and wacky. My pet animals take one smell and know not to eat it. But humans ofthen eat the pretty flowers to get doped up. So I only grow them in my back yard. One of my teachers had growing in his front yard, but promply removed it when on the news he saw some local kids eat too much Jipson weed and went mad.
Clark have you been eating Datura, seeing colors is part of the Datura experience. But I don't eat it my self.

I am 23 now. In the year 2060 I would be 83 years old. Rembering the good old days before cell phones, internet, and automobles. Most people would belive that back in the 20th cent did not have cars, I look forward to telling yarns about  how all had horses, used phones with cords. Fought over oil and enjoyed littlering and not recycling. Used bow and arrows to hunt for food, and fought for are favorite American idol in the sweaps wars.

#19 Re: Terraformation » Thoughts on producing an atmosphere on the Moon » 2006-05-02 21:52:27

My English is great, I learned to read and write at  public schools in Arizona. When I write I like to change letters of some words for fun. That does not mean I can't speak or write in english.
Also Arizona is about 50 miles from the sea of cortez, I go to rock point mexico for fishing and stuff.
Karov if you have never been to Arizona don't judge it, please come and visit in June it is the best time of the year here.
I cant wait for the new missions to the moon, we will learn so much more about our moon.

#20 Re: Martian Politics and Economy » Languages - Parlo Italiano - What langauge should be the Official? » 2006-04-25 19:22:41

KaseiII y Kahless316
English is the bestest speak in da world. You just a buster, me and my soliders only speak American. But like da way thsoe english people speak.
Italino is the language of waitors, spanish is of day labours and illegal aliens. French people have chosen death as a society and soon will be an Islamic state. Allah abaker! wink
English is the most spoken language in the world of 2nd leaners, more people speak english as a second language than any other. So english would be the best language to speak in any international efforts.

I my self have alwise spoken American da right way, I anits gots no need to learn that thier dang itlanio. It makes me madder than a texas ratttle sake. I am leanering spanish so I can tell my day labours what to do. I hate hearing "Que?, No hablo inglish dude, y tu tambien, Que paso homes."

If you are wondering, for fun I wrote most of my post in bad english, and some ubonics mixed in. It is fun to write in the way some poorly educated youths talk.

#21 Re: Not So Free Chat » I'll take malaprops for *5* Bob - Apropos of Nothing continues. . . » 2006-04-25 19:02:32

My Apple trees have all ready flowered and have small apples growing. My pumkins have just geminated, I put a cage around them so the brids dont kill them. But they ate all the corn seeds that I planted, I hate brids.

My orange trees have set fruit, and my oral blanco has little grape fruit on it. By december they will be ready to eat. There are still some orange and grape fruit on the trees from last years crop, the wind kocks them down all over the lawn!

For me spring is almost over and the early summer season of heat ,drought, and low humdity starts. Home home has 8 seasons, may and june are the hot dry mounths.

Most of my garden plants die in June, or as I call it "when the hell mouth opens".
The sun so bright it blinds you, my favorite part is when at night its still 101 F out.
June is a very special mounth indeed, but July has an over all higher temp but higher humidty, clouds and rain make it more pleasent. The dust storms are nice too. Ofthen the temperture will drop from 112 down to 78, once a big storm drop the temp to 68 F from 114 F my house also got 3 inches of rain from that one storm. In north phoenix it drop 5 inches of hail. I frove the rain that pooled in my rain gage and still have the ice. I set it out side in the winter and melted it and spreed it on my grass. More like my dad dump it their, he was mad about all the dirty ice in the freezer.

#22 Re: Not So Free Chat » Your view on the ethics of History writing » 2006-04-25 17:19:03

History is just agrgeed upon myths, there are no truths in history.

As for teaching past war crimes, the truth is in history there are no war crimes. Which ever myth prevails is the history, nations ofthen claim that war crimes happen by another nation. While the other nation claims that war crimes committed by the nation. Which ever nation is more powerful their myth of what happen will prevail and other nations will be demondized.
If Germany had won WW2 than we be hearing about the crimes that the Russians, and England did. Are current myths will change over time to which ever myth is popular or supported by the most power nation at the time.

So it does not really matter if war crimes are taught in school, it is just you forcing your myths on people who do not want it. In my liberal view people should be aloud to belive in what ever myth they want. Because in the end it does not matter what myth people belive in. They like there myths and that's fine, there is no truth in history. In fact good history has little to do with the truth, but the myths that makes people happy. Truth is really is just your own myths that you use to understand the world.

#23 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potlock I » 2006-04-25 16:58:08

I don't think that Bush would use tac nukes on Iran. But having that option out in the media helps bush with the dipmo sid. If iran really thinks that bush would nuke them, then they would be more willing to give up their nuke power plans.

One good thing about the USA it has alot of power, lots of nukes to back up its demands. One of the must powerful statements a country can say "Are words are back by nukes, and we have used them before on people like you. "
Iran has to understand we have nuked before, and have no problem of doing it again.

Also I dont care what the islamic world think of the USA, they should fear us. Islamic invaders have controled the christen and jewish lands of the mid east. We are just liberating these lands from the Islamic invaders. Christs Kindom will get back its lands. Th lion will eat the camel.

You sea Christens also sea the Arabs as invaders in there homeland, and the jews too. So you arguement that jews invaded a Imlamic state are false, the jews were just moving back to their homeland Israel.

#24 Re: Not So Free Chat » Political Potlock I » 2006-04-18 14:25:49

What should be done with Iran, some people want to use tac nukes on them. That would slove the problem and give President Bush a lasting note in history.
Trueman nuke the nips, and Bush nuked Iran. Bombing Iran would be alot better than invading them with troops. Iraq takes up too many resources to control, I dont think that the US army could control Iran too. The army would need to have the draft, or give very high pay to get new people in the army.
My high school friend came back from Iraq in dec 05, he did not want to sign for another tour. He told me that the army was never given a chance to fully be an army in Iraq. Because of the media they could never break out the big guns and kill the emney in mass. He said that he did enjoy shooting his gun at feet people on the ground, but he never killed anybody. He also enjoyed beating up Iraq people that where thought to be bad, The people shooting at them or making bombs.
Over all the media and Political pressure prevents the army from doing the best the job they could. If they were given a free hand to do the job there way, and the media was censured not to report on the war. The army could have killed all the bad people in Iraq by now. The government does have the power to control the media and the right to free press. They did that in ww1, and I think that it should be done.

#25 Re: Not So Free Chat » What I love about the United States » 2006-03-08 12:09:39

My dad all ready claimed me as a dependant, my brother wants to claim him self as a dependant but my dad plans to file first to beat him too it. Tax time can be very fun time if you work at HNR Block.

Also I was joking about being on welfare, But I will have to pay back my government school loans when I am done with school. I hope I can get a job with a BS degree in plant biology. Because when you are in dept to the government they are not nice folks. Any ways I don't pay taxes because I have no job, no money. Being a college student is fun. But with no money its hard to have fun out side of free events, parks or hiking.

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